Welcome aboard exjwza.
Like you I have only recently been on the forum.
I had never before "spoken" with exjws.
It has done me good. Thanks everyone. I hope you benefit too exjwza
jean-luc picard
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Famliy Woes
by exjwza inso my story, just like everyone elses that has left, is one of confusion , hurt, and lots of mixed emotions, .
i was raised a witness, and at the age of 20ish bent to pressure from the elders and got baptised, my heart was never in it, not even as a child, it was more jsut the motions of it, because thats what you were taught your whole life to do.
about a year after being baptised, i met a a young lady that opened my eyes, while she wasnt in my life long, (dont blame her, i had a lot to deal with , family, elders, etc) she was my saving grace, in the "truth" i was depressive, lonely, :( .
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Feeling funky
by scooterspank inwow...in quite the funk.
there are so many thoughts and memories that swirl in my head when i come on this site i wouldn't know where to start.
my mother was inactive for a bit, we got along famously!!!
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jean-luc picard
Hello scooterspank.
I can understand your concern, and am pleased that you and your mum have been able to have fun together.
It is not always the case.
I feel that all of the fun my mother and I found is going to be sucked out by the org
Have you got some special old photos, memories of " the good times"?
Why not make an evening together, sharing these memories, doing something together as well ( restaurant/cinema?).
Maybe your mum will realise what she might be asked to give up.
Good luck, and feel free to rant a little here.
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Watchtower published the SAME EVENT TWICE...wrong both times!!
by Terry in1873 [six thousand years of man's existence ends in a.d. 1873] {wr apr 1880 88}.
1873 "here we furnish the evidence that from the creation of adam to a.d. 1873 was six thousand years.
and though the bible contains no direct statement that the seventh thousand will be the epoch of christ's reign, the great sabbath day of restitution to the world, yet the venerable tradition is not without reasonable foundation.. if, then, the seventh thousand-year period of earth's history be an epoch specially noted as the period of christ's reign, we shall, by showing that it began in a.d. 1873, be proving that we are already in it.
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jean-luc picard
1972 "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Watchtower] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." {WT Nov 1 1972 644}
Once again, not a very logical argument.
If, in 1976, the wtbs did not admit to making a mistake about the end in 1975, then they would have looked really really stupid ( instead of just stupid).
There is a guy driving around in a van saying the end is coming on 21 may 2011.(see other threads)
On the 22 May he will no doubt admit that he has made a mistake.
By Watchtower logic, that makes him a true prophet.
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What was your "aha" moment....
by botchtowersociety in....that made you decide to leave the botchtower society?
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jean-luc picard
I cant remember the exact title: something like JWs in the 20 Century?
Anyway, whilst everone else was raving about how faith strengthening,
I was thinking, so 100 years ago they were saying the end is iminent, and were often abused, persecuted, etc for their faith.
And now they are all dead, and even their children are dead.
And what about me in 100 years time? Is all that I'm sacrificing a waste of my time and life?
I think so. So the only answer was to leave. Once the seed sown.........................
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New light on NEW LIGHT
by Terry inwell, it just sort of came to me while i was driving.. the doctrine of new light is a false analogy.. why had i not considered this before?.
here is what i'm thinking; see if you don't agree.... jehovah's witnesses are divided into three distinct tiers of membership.. 1.governing body anointed.
2.clueless anointed.
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jean-luc picard
Nice analogy Terry.
That makes me think of Moses.
If Moses had made so many mistakes when he went before Pharoah, Israel would still be in Egypt.
When Gods prophets in the bible said something, they got it right first time and you'd better believe what they
said or else.
Making all those re-interpretations just gets God a bad name.
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Earthquakes Earthquakes and more Earthquakes
by sizemik infor those who may be interested in things geological .
just an update on seismic activity here in christchurch.
what's below is the seismometer drum for the last 24 hrs .
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jean-luc picard
How do people live with the threat of earthquakes in areas prone to them?
I cant imagine that they all want to become jdubs so as to be saved!
Does the jdub message regarding earthquakes and the time of the end
have the same or more impact with locals?
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A Major Break Through!
by headisspinning ini just wanted to let you all know that i have had a major break through with my mom.. we have hashed everything out and she not only apologized for hurting us, but she also said she understands why we've made the decisions that we've made.. and best of all?
she is going to try to help us both get our kids back.. she had no idea of all the stuff going on with our ex spouses and she's very upset about it.. she said that she accepts where we are at in regard to the religion and although she does hope we might change our minds down the road, she just wants us to be happy.. at this point she still feels she needs to respect the disfellowshipping arrangement and i'm not pressuring her about that.
after all, rome wasn't built in a day and i would say major progress has been made here.. just wanted to let you guys know where things are at right now and a big thank you for all of your support, advice and care through this ordeal..
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jean-luc picard
This is good news headisspinning. And just what you need.
Heres hoping things get better and better.
I'm pleased for you both.
jlp
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New Way of Doing Field Service?
by snowbird inas i was driving to work this morning, i saw a familiar looking car a few yards ahead of me that kept making stops where people were standing alongside the roadway.. when i drove past the people, i noticed wt and awake!
in their hands.. well, lo and behold, this jw woman to whom i once referenced in the link below was "placing" literature with them!.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/191371/1/a-visit-from-the-reformed-village-strumpet.
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jean-luc picard
I actually saw in one city, the magazines attached to a vending board, out side a train station, much like one might see newspapers etc. There was no one nearby.
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An explanation for the increase in anointed
by pirata inremember, if you see this in the watchtower, or hear it in a talk, you heard it here first .
evidently, since we are so close to end of this system of things, god has seen it fitting to fill the final spots held open for the 144,000.. there.
simple, elegant, and doesn't require an overhaul of the 144,000 jw belief..
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jean-luc picard
Have they ever acknowledged that some in the first and subsequent centuries were of the great crowd? Otherwise their numbers wont add up.
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Star Trek was pivotal to me growing up and here is the best of it, imo
by sabastious ini saw this episode when i was a little kid and it has stuck with me since and will so until i die.
i highly recommend taking the 42 minutes out of your life to watch it.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5djw1kzcki.
-sab.
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jean-luc picard
sorry but I hated next generation and kept hoping they would find a way to kill them all off
apropriate name........ heathen
finallysomepride Earl Grey is made from bergamot ( mixed with black tea ). The French are quite keen on what they call tisane
or infusions made plants other than tea, very often considered to have medicinal benefits.